Oral History Interview with Dale LaFrenz

The Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium (MECC) was instrumental in not only deploying the earliest computers into public schools in Minnesota, but also developing software that would become nationally popular like The Oregon Trail computer game. A window into the past, I’ve come across an oral history interview with Dale LaFrenz, the founding assistant director of MECC who recounts the creation and growth of MECC. The interview is available for download in its entirety through the Charles Babbage Institute’s website.

Many people may not realize that The Oregon Trail was originally a game written for teletype machines – what were essentially typewriters connected to a computer mainframe. Those computers originally made-up MECC’s backbone, with one computer shared by each school district using time-sharing. Dale’s interview gives insight into MECC’s decision-making process in 1973, explaining decisions that had a ripple effect across the world of educational computing. Dale recounts:

MECC dispatched two people out to talk to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak who were the 21-year-old kids with the new Apple computer. They had already announced their intent to save the world and they were going to help education using the computer. They had no information about what we were doing in Minnesota. They didn’t know anybody was using computers in schools. We told them about MECC and said we’d like to buy five Apple II’s at a special price. They gave us a special price. We brought the five back to Minnesota to sell to Minnesota schools. Minnesota schools not only bought five, but that year we sold over 500 Apple II computers. [...] Moving on to 1980, MECC became the largest seller of Apple computers. And so it happened that Apple got its start in the educational computing business through its Minnesota connection.

What’s also interesting is Dale’s discussion of the decision made to sell MECC, which was a state-owned operation, to a company (MECC would then become the Minnesota Educational Computing Corporation). According to Dale, both IBM and Apple weren’t interested in such an acquisition.

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